worst 380 pistols

Man you really missed one of the best out there. TNP Main. Ive trained it out but I was pulling it left every shot because of that long hard pull. The safety on my Shield .40 was the same way. I currently own 4 .380 pistols. Another thing that affects recoil is the design of the handgun itself. 2) Glock 42 We'll cover what the round can do, things to consider in choosing a gun, ammo, and our top 5 picks of the best .380 pistols. I am one that will NOT keep a pistol if it ever has a failure to feed regardless of the type ammo fed through it. Why no Kimbers EVER?! (However, suspect Ruger will go with the LCP II as their .380 and discontinue the LC380.). Ruger has proven that you dont need to have an arduous and gritty trigger pull on a .380 auto and its likely that more manufacturers will now follow their lead. Glock 42 5. If anyone has a legitimate reason I shouldn't use this particular weapon for self defense, please respond. And can add night sights easily. Give it a rating below. I have an LCP II and love it. Both are very easy to conceal and I never doubted the reliability should I ever need to use either. guns & But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. (Even the slightly easier to carry 3" barrel models can provide fairly similar figures.) (I preferred to use it on woodchucks, however, out to 100 yards, with a good Leupold scope and a .22 Hornet barrel.) I LOVED it for its size and wanted it to come in #1! )..I bought the stainless version with that goofy holster in 2010.this thing has always worked for me and I can punch the torso of a full silhouette at 10 yards without too much issue, quickly no less.it works.they sell the all blued version on sale as low as $159.I just like my stainless, grease the rails after a good cleaning (very, very lightly) and 4 drops of oil in critical places, wipe off the excess and bam! We both shoot and carry with a +1 magazine for better control and comfort. I prefer the long trigger pull on the original. Jams all Underwood Xtreme Penetrator or Defender. But it is accurate and true and the cost is $350. Use of the external safety becomes automatic with practice. This adds to the visual/narrative of the text. Practice, practice practice. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a brand you hear a lot but this is definitely an option you should consider. In an ideal world, youll be right behind the gun. It has a slide stop (not too useful as a slide release but it holds the slide back when you're empty), and second-strike capability which I've had to use. Got a good deal on mine. This is the round to go to in the 380. The only real way to know for certain how a gun is going to handle is to shoot it before you buy it. I've found the fit and overall feel of the pistol to be more favorable than the Sig 238. With the after rebate price, it was just too good to pass up. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. Note: DOES NOT FIT Glock 43, Ruger LC380, and other larger frame 380's. SIG P238 Why Use a .380 Pistol? The plastic grip sides come loose after shooting it. The Kahr is an excellent 380 too. I would recommend it. Place you live? I would suggest in this instance photos of the various Guns. Truly perfection! Sig has made more than 20 styles (colors, etc.) Nobody ever looks twice. The look like high end custom 1911 mags. Re: Glock 42 and Sig P238 With practice and qualifications I have shot 1,000 rounds and had no issues. It's small size is great in my front pocket and performs great with my colleagues pressure drills. The pull was so long that i would miss the reset when trying rapid fire. Winchester 209 Primers Shotshell The non-corrosive and all-weather primers provide quick reliable ignition in any shooting conditions. I have a S&W M&P9 and a S&W Shield so was leaning toward the Bodyguard, but its trigger is unbelievably heavy, so heavy I could barely get it pulled. The 4th was picked out by my wife for her ccw. Glock 42 is the best pocket rocket I've shot yet.. The only other rental gun Ive shot (ironically, another Ruger: the LC9S at a different range) had no misfires, so Im not completely down on Ruger. Can't go wrong with this one. the 22 LR is routinely maligned. I have an 84fs. I also added a Magguts conversion to add one more round to the magazine, so now I have 7 + 1 available if I ever need it. Why? Because, over the years, Ive watched a very great number of pistol shooters OUTGUN THEMSELVES by trying to shoot a 40 caliber pistol consistently and well. I routinely carried my duty weapon (early years .357 S & W mod 19) and back up .38 S & W Chief Special with +p ammo. At the range I could hit the target, but not even close to as well as I could with other handguns. I know the California Highway Patrol carried .38 spl. Just enough meat on it to feel right and give you something to hold on to, but still in a sub-compact footprint for CCW. I laugh at all those that say a .380 is enough gun to get you killed.Really, Having No gun will get you killed ! It's worth a look. I've been armed for over 50 years on a daily basis. You are crazy. I purchased a Browning Black label Pro with 4.25 inch barrel , I also own 9mm of different mfg. Owned a S&W Bodyguard 380 for a couple years . I would say no - unless you really needed the ultra-compactness and reduced recoil. But if I am wearing pants, belt, etc I opt for the Sig. The thing is so ergonomically-designed, you don't even know it's in your pocket (holster) most of the time. Its looks great and feels great in my hands. We have a few of the guns in this article, and I have shot them all quite a bit. Only issue was my wife's hands are frail so she had limb wristing issue, which she has not had with the Sig P238 and she could not rack the 42/43 which was the main reason for the Sig P238. Did you even consider the Springfield? Has Excellent sights (tritium) and safety and did I mention, it's a real gun, not some plastic wannabe. Not going to cycle (read) all these awesome responses to this well written article except to say that if a woman like my wife showed me the barrel of her 380 and hit me with a couple-three rounds -- I would be one hurting unhappy camper. I have one and I like it. I'm not sure where you learned to count/measure Josh. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. I've had a Kahr PM9 for years, thrown everything I could at it, and it has never failed to feed, fire, or lock the slide. I show up to a call and see someone with a weapon they are getting neutralized immediately no questions asked dont need no tweaking crackheads running amuck with a gun especially in Merica. Glad I found this site. Looking to replace it with something more reliable. Jimenez, Lorcin, Raven, Jennings, and a few I'm most certainly missing are all part of this certain category of firearms best described as junk. I like mine too but my wife has a lcp2. Walther PPK 9. This pistol is a real bargain and is one of the cheapest around. decorated guns for a "get it out of my shop" discount. To clarify and in all fairness to Kahr many have no problem out of the box and many have experienced what I have (according to the forums). The trigger pull on most .380 autos is. No other cartridge has that claim to fame or infamy if you prefer. But it did jam on the cheap stuff as well as Critical Defense .380 which I thought should have worked better. Plus side for smaller folks is that the slide racks easily and you can even fully load the extended magazine without a helper tool. I have put a thousand rounds of all kinds into these beauts and only 2 FTFs. So Bodygard is "BETTER". I picked up a Kimber Micro 380. The XTP bullet has a good track record with several calibers but was one of the top performers with the .380. "While the LCP was a popular pistol, the LCP II is a refined and much improved version." I evaluated all of these and bought the Springfield 911. It is also the best shooter out of the very small .380s. (I'm not, due to the absence of a grip safety.) The safety feature is no problem if you practice. My only complaint on this gun was the sights, which I easily remedied by installing a laser on the lower rail. Many years. If it doesn't, it suggests it is your grip. I completely agree with your #1 pick. Now, contrary to the great internet gun forum 3 x 3 x 3 myth, my attackers were smart enough to begin the engagement at almost 10 yards distance, and before I had a chance to draw my pistol. A friend of mine carried a gun for months with ammo that didnt cycle. - It's cheaper and has much more capacity than the Sig P238, the Kahr CW or the Ruger LCPII I'm a 65-y-o man with arthritis in both hands and carpal tunnel syndrome in both wrists, and the easy rack and milder recoil are the primary reasons I chose the EZ in the 380 model. I gotta say I agree with your sentiments about the slug. When you see a list of the Best .380s and the Beretta Cheetah is not on it there is something disingenuous going on. But I learned gunning on a Detonics Mk Zero (2.5" barrel, chopped M1911 4.5" x 6.5"), so have never considered running a [well-designed] small gun to be particularly difficult. One of the best things about the Bersa is that even if you have large hands, this is a very nice gun to grip and hold. I don't know why it keeps appearing in these 380 pocket lists, must be advertising? This is especially true if 147-grain 9 mm loads are compared to the higher-performance loadings in the .38 Special; it is uncanny how similar these are, especially given the differences in how barrel lengths are measured in pistols versus revolvers. Never a jam. I also carry this 'cannon' into theaters, libraries, to the park, to the zoo, etc. Walther CCP 6. Why get a self defense weapon if it's essentially useless in limited visibility conditions? On their website they recommend the +P version for the Glock 42. Tucked into a J&J wallet holster, it's gone but easy enough to deploy. I WANTED to carry the LCP but I CANNOT carry it after owning it and my testing. - It has great lines for a handgun So went out and bought a Bersa "Fire Storm"fell in love with the 380 cal. Both guns are extremely accurate. I really like mine, small and compact. My first handgun I ever purchased was a Bersa Thunder 380 standard capacity, 7+1. I bought it because it looks so much like the Walther PPK. (My LCP had the same problem.). Also picked up the larger 938 - and carry either one depending on how I am dressed Now here;'s the good about the LCP.It Feeds CRITICAL DEFENSE like a champ. cant make it jam off of Critical defense. The Judge). It is also used by Underwood ammo who produces it in a +P and +P+ plus loads. As a lifelong 9mm shooter (starting with my very first.Browning Hi-Power) I recently purchased a Bersa Firestorm in .380. all. I find I'm gaining endurance and may even be able to advance to a lightweight 9mm in a few months. S&W Bodyguard .380 7. The LCP-II and LCP Max are very lightweight and have decent triggers. It's light. I didn't see any mention of this pistol here. I went with the Glock 42 and enjoy shooting it, additionally I am a Glock armorer which factored into the decision. Im in the market for my first CCW and have the LCPII on my radar. The Shield is not hard to carry and conceal, but my .380 is so much more comfortable and concealable that it is the one I choose most of the time. For what it is, I really like the gun and most reviewers feel the same. I have fired a wide variety of 9mm rounds out of it. You might see if the pistol sends cases into the forehead when someone else shoots the gun. The only two on that list I'd even consider trusting my life to would be the Sig and the Glock. The holster appears to be a holster for an I-Pad. The Glock doesn't fall into my "favorite" handgun catagory of the pistols I own or have owned but I have never had a failure to feed or failure to eject nor have I seen a FTF or FTE at the qualifications rangeno, that's not trueone time during qualifications, a new officer was having FTE's with her issued Glock. The trigger and grip feel are top of the list imho. Absolutely, this is why 10mm is great for a woods carry gun when you're facing four-legged threats but less of a good idea when you're in the city facing two-legged. Ammunition will differ slightly in energy, and that affects ejection. has put a many people under in the world and was the sidearm of many law enforcement agencies in the U.S. for several decades. Well, with all due respect, I must point out to you that this is a serious error, indicating at least an ignorance of the history of firearms. Typically carry colt ofcr .45, but sometimes just can't. Good trigger, too. If I had to bet my life, my choice would be 1) Sig P238 Plus, there is almost always a more powerful self-defense round out there. You forgot or ignored the Bersa Thunder 380. Its good enough to get the job done with several shots, but obviously not the best choice out there. Split rails, cracked frames, cracked grips, broken take down pins etc. The ability to shoot through car doors is a significantly lower level of concern than the hazards of over-penetration. It's a pocket gun and after a few carries you will forget you have it on you. My original idea was to buy the S&W Bodyguard but after looking at both decided to go with the Ruger. I fired over 500 rounds through my Sig using dozens of different ammo and it NEVER gave me an issue. The Ruger is light, easy to carry concealed and is very accurate. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. There is a screw, I tighten it down and it works loose pretty quickly while at the range. By contrast, the .38 Special, when shot out of a revolver with the standard 4" barrel, easily gives kinetic energy figures of 280 foot-pounds, and with +P loadings from Corbon (and others) can deliver over 300 foot-pounds of energy. Its much easier for me to shoot my Ruger than it is my S & W! It has had at least 2000 rounds through it. I'm returning to shooting after a near 40yr layoff, and find the Kimber handles nicely. Model D, based on a Star design that goes back to the 1920's. Theres not a pistol I shot more accurately then this Bersa. After running a number of clips through it .your hand will begin to hurt from holding such a small grip on a gun with a good amount of recoil., Never had a jamb with any type of ammo, overall a great reliable little gun. Bought one. No malfunctions of any kind. She wiped it off loaded it with critical defense and kinda politely sneered at my Remington. Decent groups, although early on, I was working out my shooting kinks. Mine was complete garbage and would come out of battery requiring disassembly! Like you said the safety is difficult to disengage but with the double action trigger and long trigger pull I feel comfortable carrying with the safety off. It had a single-stack magazine and a large thumb cut-out in the base of the frame, to supposedly make magazine removal easier. Since I now have 100% reliability I can't attribute it to shooting technique or any pistol defect. I had the Glock 42 FTE all the time and the Bodyguard kicked almost as bad as my 38 didn't like either one. While the shotshells were fine for small game, I cannot image them being the least suited for self-defense. I'd suggest hitting local gun shops and getting a deal on some of the more"creatively designed" (ahem) versions out there. It sports a long, heavy trigger pull with double-strike capability. This gun has never had a FTF except with Corbon hollow points. You hit all the points I had questions about. For it's 2.5 inch barrel, I can easily hit center mass at 25 yards or less and with rapid fire shots. I have qualified with it twice and I have full confidence in shot placement. Most instances of conflict occur within 5 feet. Another thing: With me the 40 S&W caliber is, also, out. It's probably as small as any on this list, at only 4.7" X 3.6", Ive owned and fired every caliber from my little Colt target 22 to my 50 cal Desert Eagle. I had 6 stovepipes(!!!) I like the feel and dependability of the Glock 42. And the Walther PP Gun was the first gun in the history of weapons that the decocker / security introduced. It is how you do things after making guns continuously for hundreds of years. They are not only built like tanks, but will shoot Plus P ammo milder than most guns shoot standard ammo. Bottom line is I would put my life in the hands of either one of the three guns mentioned. I saw it looked well made with a laser which I feel is only an extra. Easy to shoot, very reliable and inexpensive (~$285). My go to "practice " round AND go to "defensive" round is the 95 grain Hornady Critical Defense. In the order acquired, they are a PPK/S, S&W Bodyguard with CT laser, Ruger LCP-II, and Ruger LCP Max. What is very important to me is having a laser and being able to shoot juiced up .380 rounds. How does the RM380 pocket carry for you? Stopping power can often be the difference between giving the police a witness account and being a murder victim. I have the sig p238,Springfield armory 911,glock 42 and ruger lcp, I like my short trigger pulls but my lcp does have a decent enough trigger and recoils not bad! I do believe this is a sleeperhere is a gun that Taurus didn't release until they had it right. Wowno North American Arms Guardian .380? Excellent review. In addition to a pistols caliber, recoil (felt, perceived, or mechanical) is determined by the type of breech lockup that a pistol uses. The Micro 380 now comes with a 7-round magazine; The Micro 380 weighs a mere 13.4 oz. So embarrassing she emptied the box of low cost ammo and then shot the ammo that my gun rejected. It fit my hand perfectly. 2) .410 for defensive, I strongly disagree with the assumptions made. Thank you for the info. It has never been a problem. The Precision One XTP round did excellent. 3. I have extended mags for both but the LCP 2 is still a lot snappier then the sig making it harder to get back on target. Anyway I decided to purchase the revot in spite of that absurd and stupid law. BEST: Sig P238. My personal opinion, the Walther is vastly superior to the Smith Bodyguard. Steel case hollow points seem to be the most disagreeable. Yes but sig at least bought the rights to it from colt , Springfield just stole it. Check out our full review of its 9mm brotherthe CW9. Looking for what is possibly the easiest gun to rackever? .380 guns tend to conceal better than many others out there on the market. I can forget and drop my car keys in my pocket without shooting myself. I do like the safety feature. Check Price. One of the best concealed weapons out there is the 380 pistol. And in a .380, what's working for me might not work in someone else's pistol. I personally don't want to take the chance in case it's a huge guy with several layers of clothing, and hopped up on adrenaline or drugs. Check out our Guide to Holsters for Any Method You Carry. What are you talking about the .380 is underpowered and is equal in power to a .38 special ? This article stated the trigger pull on the Ruger LCP II is long and heavy, that is incorrect, in fact that is one of the improvements over the original LCP.. Chambering a round cocks the hammer and the trigger pull is almost that of a single action pistol. You should do a part II to this article and evaluate a few of the other guns that were mentioned in the comments. you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. Was this a consideration? It comes as a 5 +1 with a grip and thumb safety. It's not a lot of the fun at the range as it is small and powerful and beats up your hand but it's not supposed to be. Stay safe. Thanks for the review. The best of class (IMHO) is the old P238 HD. The SW380, chambered in .380 ACP, held six rounds and was fitted with very rudimentary "guttersnipe" sights. It literally Runs almost EVERYTHING. 3, when I tried to release the slide there was a failure to feed, this with only three rounds in the magazine, 4 I manage to drop the mag, clear the jam and fire three rounds and reload.

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